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The models and most simple approaches to prediction or attribution of CO2 effects make the mistake of trying to work with energy balance models, based on quantities of energy transported. That is far too ambitious and is impractical. The accumulation of errors is overwhelming.

A more practical way is to work directly with temperature, tropospheric temperature lapse rate, and atmospheric optical thickness. These variables are not about the quantities of energy transported. They are about the mechanisms of the transport. They are less subject to accumulation of errors, so that they yield practical results.

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The huge resources and undue credence placed on Atmospheric-Oceanic Global Climate Models (AOGCMs) are of scarce use for predicting the likely effect of man-made carbon-dioxide emissions. Even the good five Group don't understand this fact, and they give far too much credence to them.

The problem is that the prediction is heavily dependent on mathematics, and that the proper and relevant mathematics appears not to be understood, not even by our good five Group. Perhaps one or two of them understand it, but such understanding doesn't appear in the Report. Even Lindzen seems not to understand, for he talks a lot about the Navier-Stokes equations, which are partial differential equations used in the AOGCMs. That approach is far too difficult for present-day knowledge. Moreover, it is unnecessary for the crucial question of how much will carbon dioxide emissions affect the climate.

The relevant mathematics is that of dynamical systems theory, built on ordinary differential equations such as were invented by Isaac Newton. Judith Curry refers to a specialized engineering version called 'control systems theory', but the full power of the general theory is really necessary for good understanding.

The crucial argumentation on which the warmistas rely is an assertion that there is "amplification through positive feedback through the radiative effects of water vapour". Without that "positive feedback" argumentation, the threatening warming case falls to the ground. An understanding of dynamical systems theory shows that the relevant feedback is negative, not positive.

Dynamical systems theory shows that the likely warming is less than 1.2°C, but does not venture a more precise estimate. Will Happer thinks that a likely value could be 0.6°C. Bill Kininmonth puts it perhaps about the same. So do John Abbot and Jennifer Marohasy. In 2008, Roy Spencer wrote "Translated into a global warming estimate, a feedback of 6 W m-2 K-1 would correspond to a rather trivial 0.6 deg. C of warming in response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2."

It is generally thought that global warming of less than 1.5°C would be practically harmless and not threatening. It's not even close. But mainstream journal editors do not dare to say so.

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